Pluto Down Under:
Hauntings of the Antipodes
©2000 by Erin Sullivan
NOTE: The following is an excerpt from Erin's book, Where in the
World? Astro*Carto*Graphy and Relocation Charts.
Throughout the book, Erin is working with the students at the Centre for Psychological Astrology in London.
In this session, they are talking about a Pluto/Ascendant line.
Audience: Erin, when you were speaking about Pluto lines, I
remembering something. When I was in Australia last year, which is where I have my Pluto/Ascendant line exactly running through
Sydney, I was staying in an incredibly haunted house. The whole time
I was in that house, I fought with a feeling that I was going to see
"them" any minute. I felt if I relaxed and dropped my guard, I was going
to start seeing the ghosts. A lot of people who have been in that house
have seen them. It was quite known that it was very haunted, and it was
absolutely terrifying. Actually, it was an overwhelming experience.
Erin: Knowing you, and your chart, I know that you are not inclined to
Victorian vapours and visitations. Isn't that where that friend of yours
saw somebody sitting on the bed who wasn't really there?
Audience: Recently, after I left Sydney, yes. It was an old woman
sitting in the midst of a pile of books on the bed, reading out of a book.
In he middle of the night my friend went to the loo, looked in this room
on the way, and saw her. Then, when he came out of the loo on the way back
to his room, he looked in again for some reason, and she looked up and
growled at him like a dog. That's the kind of thing that happens in that
house. When I was there I was overwhelmed by it, and very, very frightened.
Audience: Did you leave or did you stay there?
Audience: I was staying there for three nights, and on the first
night I stayed awake all night, planning to leave. It was my friend's
house and I was invited to stay, and when I told them in the morning how
disturbed I had been, they were so upset about it. Of course, they are
quite happy with these ghosts - they were used to them. But I couldn't
bring myself to check into a hotel. My friends would have been mortified
that I had left. So I actually stayed for another two nights.
Audience: And was that difficult?
Audience: The second night was a bit better because I did loads of
visualization and prayer and mantras and things, and it staved them
off a bit. But the third night it was back to being as bad as the first
night. It was the whole time - it wasn't just at night. Any time of day
in the house I could feel it and hear them walking past the room.
That's the second time I've been to Sydney. The first
time I went to Sydney, I went with a friend. His mother was dying,
and that was the reason I was in Sydney - death again. So I'm very
interested to see what happens when I go back again next year.
Erin: Me, too. You know, that's very interesting. Here's where I think
fatedness comes in. Myself, I believe that, had you left, you would have
felt really dreadful for leaving. You see, it's as though you are damned
if you do and damned if you don't. As the Romans
said, saxa inter unda -"between the rocks and the waves" -
because you would have felt guilty, apprehensive, and frightened because
you had been frightened. You would have been scared away from something.
It is better to stand and face it. It is a metaphor for all fears.
Audience: Sometimes in the night I would think, "It is all right to
think, 'I'm not going to deal with this.' I have come across this kind of
thing before, so it is interesting that in this situation I wasn't all
right with them. It was far more than I could cope with. Maybe they were
Audience: When you came upon them before, was it on a Pluto line?
Erin: Perhaps you have pretty and pleasant ghosts on a Venus line. Or
Romeo-and-Juliet visions under Mars/Venus crossings. But under a Pluto
line, I think it would be very frightening to the psychic integrity.
Why bother, as you say? I am a great believer in, "Look, there are times to
bang your head against a brick wall and times not to, and if it is going
to work, great, do it." But you say you had three days when you just
prayed a lot.
Audience: And it worked.
Audience: I'm looking at my Pluto now!
Audience: It was my Pluto/Ascendant line which runs up through Sydney,
Shanghai, and Beijing. I have been to those two cities as well, but I
didn't have those kinds of experiences there. I was only in Beijing for
three days as well. There were no ghosts, but I felt as if I had been
plugged into an electric current. You were talking about connecting with somebody
else's dark tribal collective. That's what happened there. It was an
extraordinarily powerful experience.
Erin: Well, when you are getting into places which have had layers of
dynasties which have collapsed and then been reconstructed one upon the
other, you are getting into a kind of Hades place. It is compartmentalized,
and it is there for different levels of culture. None of them ever die. I
had a similar experience when I was in Zululand, where I was horrified by
the burying of the Zulu culture. I could not stay ten minutes in a
particular village that had been reconstructed.
It was as if something
really dreadful was saying, "I will not sleep here." Whitney Houston was
playing in Durban, which meant that every hotel was booked. We had to
drive up to Pietermaritzburg - which is 100 miles from the coast - to try
to find a motel, because there was nowhere to stay.
But I refused to stay
in this Zulu place, because you could feel the restlessness of the
destruction of a culture that was perfectly fine until it was
destroyed - only in its death
has it become terrifying. And it is still there, haunting. I think Pluto
will resurrect things like dead cultures, returned heroes, and people who
have really been important in the growth of the world but have been
killed off. Certainly it could be ghosts. You should find out who these
Audience: Well, actually, this particular house was in the Temple
Gardens in Sydney, and was very old. The Temple Gardens are right next to
the rocks where the convicts were brought. The person who lives in the
house says, "We know that such and such a convict - we even know his
name - died next to that tree over there, a hundred yards from the house."
I felt that the house had become a repository for a lot of very disturbed
souls. There must have been some horrible deaths in that small area two
hundred years ago. Somehow that house was a magnet to them. That was my
theory about it.
Erin: It is a very sound theory, because Pluto rules the
disenfranchised, the disaffected, the submerged, the marginalized - people
who are forced underground to live in areas of society that nobody wants
to know about. We can't see these people. We don't know that they're
sleeping in the road. England shipped off all of its "nasty" types,
its living shadow, down to Australia. Well, they couldn't see them there,
could they? They were down under, so to speak - the Antipodean shadow.
Audience: As well as that, I have shared my home for
eighteen years with somebody who was born in Sydney. He's from my
Pluto/Ascendant line. It's my Pluto/Ascendant, not his. You were getting
around to speaking about knowing people from your lines. Now I'm wondering
about how we experience our life through somebody else.
Audience: So you experience him as Pluto/Ascendant?
Audience: Yes. He can be an unconscious agent for unrealized contents in
my own unconscious. He may, periodically, bring forth the "demons" for me
to conquer and civilize.
Audience: Not everyone can move from one country to another for obvious
reasons. But it is interesting that I have my PL/ASC in my house, in my
life, and in part of my "non-relocated" self.
When considering relocation, we have to be practical in
working with clients. People will ring up and say, "I want to emigrate
to the States, or Europe, or Australia, and I want to look at my
Astro*Carto*Graphy map." My first question is, "Is it viable? Is it
actually possible for you to do that?" If it is not realistic, then it
is simply not possible. However, there are times an individual can
relocate in accord with A*C*G.
But unless all practical systems are
in order, I wouldn't encourage people to uproot and move based purely
on A*C*G lines. If the viability of a major move is good, then I encourage
them to work with proper transits to the lines, because transits to lines
work. That's where Cyclo*Carto*Graphy comes in. Transits to lines activate
NOTE: This excerpt was taken from Sullivan, Erin: Where in the
World?, Astro*Carto*Graphy and Relocation Charts, Volume 12.
CPA Press, London, February 1999. See another excerpt here. The book is available on-line
Also visit Erin's site at www.erinsullivan.com or send her
BIO: Erin Sullivan is Canadian born and has been a consultant astrologer and teacher
since the late 1960s. She has lectured worldwide and led
workshops and symposia on many aspects of human development using
mythology, psychology and the rich language of astrology.
She has been called 'the astrologer's astrologer' and is
one of the world's most eminent consulting, writing and lecturing
Her astrological background is broad.
She was awarded three distinctions from the Fraternity for
Canadian Astrologers. She was a
founding member of the Association for Astrological Networking
(AFAN), and founder of the Media Watch program at the height of
the astrological boom in the 1980s.
Her work took her to London, England in
1989 where she has been a tutor for the Centre
for Psychological Astrology
since then, and the Series Editor for Penguin's Arkana
Contemporary Astrology Series. She is an
adjunct faculty member for the Central American Institute of
Prehistoric and Traditional Cultures at Belize.
As of September '99 Erin has taken on the position of Professional
Accreditation-Trainer for the Jim Lewis trust and
Continuum. The A*C*G Continuum Jim Lewis Home-Study course is soon
to be offered and mentored by Erin Sullivan.
CREDITS: The background tile came from ABC Giant.
The haunted house cartoon is from Jeff Bucchino, The Wizard of Draws.
Ethnic clip art can be found at Zena's Clip Art.
The maps and globes are from a free geographic clipart collection at Graphmaps.
One of the ghost animations comes from Artist for Hire,
and the other came from Free Animations by Susan.